What a treat to see the STEAM powered artist, Nick Sayers’ interview/presentation this week. There were so many great examples of linking math, (science), and art. Here are a few things that I connected with:
Stop 1: Math/art can be cultural and political. In my reading this week (Hart, 2024) it was explained that math/art may not really be embraced as art within the art community because it lacks culture and social/political viewpoints. Well, that is not the case with Nick Sayers work! He showed that math/art can in fact “speak truths.” (Hart, 2024, p. 524) From his formation of spheres (unending surfaces) out of materials like train tickets (garbage) to represent the endless waste that our daily lives produce, to the Hilbert-Moore space filling curve outlined with sandcastles made out of toxic sand from the Aral Sea Desert representing colonization and environmental contamination as we take over land and fill it with toxins. I find the blend of art used to represent and explore mathematics while connecting to real-life issues inspiring and think that it would be very engaging for youth. An important reminder that maths do not have to be separate from culture and/or politics.
Train ticket Sphere (21:20) Toxic sand castle space filling curve (1:51:05)
Stop 2: “Being an artist is so much more than being able to draw a picture.” (10:01) Sayers says this paralleling the idea that being a mathematician is so much more than being good at arithmetic. What an amazing message to get out there! Just as art can be sculpture, paint, textile, dance and more, so can mathematics be more than multiplication facts and counting change. Both of these subjects come with many thinking “I’m not good at art / math,” and that notion holding them back from exploring and experiencing the disciplines. When we broaden what “counts” as art or as math we open it up to more people to be willing to try it.
Stop 3: Scaling. Ever since the our 551 class I have been interested in a scaling project with students. (Maybe in the spring with my 9s…?) I really resonate with the ideas of representing large, or small, numbers and quantities and making them more relatable to connect to. Sayers has many great examples of scaling, including his pantograph or “body minimizing machine,” cycling the solar system and even pinhole solargraphs that scale time. I would love to try making a pantograph to make scale drawings in the classroom. I wonder if a shop teacher would be interested in collaborating on that with me. What a real-time way to experience scale. Also, I appreciated that the cycling activity actually traversed a distance from spot to spot. I had not thought of embodying a scaling activity this way, as an outing similar to an orienteering activity.
Stop 4: Planning vs go-with-the-flow. Around 45:00 Susan and Nick have a conversation around how much of an activity should be planned and how much should go-with-the-flow as new understandings are developed from the community of people interacting with the task. This conversation is sparked from Nick’s bike gear spirograph that he added 4 pens to within a school setting for kids to try out. It led to different patterns and understandings than 1 pen showed. As teachers, this is a great question. How do we strike the balance between structured tasks and organic developments that come out of the class learning together? On one hand we need to be prepared so that class management stays intact, and that we are linking to curricular outcomes that we want to hit. On the other hand, we want to sink into questions, wonders and ideas that students put forth to promote exploration and engagement. Especially as we bring embodied experiences into the classroom - the whole point here is to play, feel and experience. We want connections to form out of this. The thing is, I have limited time to take ideas that come out of class one day and then plan how to implement them in the classroom in an organic fashion the next day, or even better, have the confidence and knowledge base to implement them on the fly. (I think that timing is important here to keep momentum in the learning and interest.) When I leave work, I have family commitments etc. So how does one strike this balance effectively? Maybe by pre-thinking though what students might connect to? Or maybe it can wait a week until that thinking on my part can happen, and circle back?
Questions for Nick:
- When you begin a project (like the train ticket sphere or sandcastles), does the mathematical structure come first or the cultural/political message? Or do they emerge together? Do you ever worry that viewers will focus only on the math and miss the political commentary, or vice versa? In pieces like these, that are not as interactive as something like the bike gear spirograph or cycling the solar system, is there a collaborative portion to getting to your final outcome? Or are they more solo acts?
References:
Hart, G. W. (2024). What can we say about “math/art”? Notices of the American Mathematical Society, 71(4), 520–525.
Sayers, N. (2026, February 18). Nick Sayers interview [Interview by S. Gerofsky] [Video]. Vimeo. https://vimeo.com/1166172275/3a7a243bce